Difference between PCI-E X16 and PCI-E 2.0

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  • CATIA

    #1

    Difference between PCI-E X16 and PCI-E 2.0

    Can someone plz educate me about the difference between the two PCIE? I am currently using a 6600GT PCIE, can I use a a 2.0 PCIE card when I upgrade? or do I need to buy a new mobo that uses a 2.0 PCIE slot?

    Thanks,
  • =98=
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 10299

    #2
    I believe PCI-E 2.0 slots allow PCI-E 2.0 graphics cards to run with extra bandwidth (not exactly sure how much more though).

    A PCI-E 2.0 port is backwards compatible with older cards, and newer PCI-E 2.0 cards will run on older motherboards, just in the slower mode.

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    • Death Merchant
      Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 1090

      #3
      PCI-E x16 is the origional PCI-E slot, which is on most new motherboards

      PCI-E 2.0 is the new slot which has double the bandwith of the previous slot, at the moment normal PCI-E x16 slot is good for any graphics card on the market however you might find in two or three years when faster cards are around that normal pci-e x16 bandwith will not be fast enough to transfer data as fast as the card

      To put it simply its a future proofing method so that Nvidia and ATI's cards arent held back by slow slots in the future and you will gain no performance if you have pci-e 2.0 at the moment. As alex said its backwards compatiable so that pci-e 2.0 motherboards run just fine with normal pci-e x16 cards

      The only cards on the market at the moment with pci-e 2.0 support are Nvidias 8800gt/gts 512mb and ATI's 3870/3850

      Hope that helps

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      • jubb jubb

        #4
        what everybody forgot to mention is there is pci-e x16 v1 & v1.1. PCI-E 2.0 will only run in PCI-E x16 v1.1 & 2.0 slots. it will not work in a v1 pc-e x16 slot

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        • Hellsent 2.0
          Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 2137

          #5
          Im confused.com ???

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          • Vreki
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 4226

            #6
            Originally posted by jubb jubb
            what everybody forgot to mention is there is pci-e x16 v1 & v1.1. PCI-E 2.0 will only run in PCI-E x16 v1.1 & 2.0 slots. it will not work in a v1 pc-e x16 slot
            So how do you tell the difference? The manual of my MB doesn't have that kind of information.

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            • =98=
              Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 10299

              #7
              Because then it was either PCI-E or AGP, PCI-E 2.0 didn't exist, so it doesn't talk about it

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              • Vreki
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 4226

                #8
                Originally posted by alex98uk
                Because then it was either PCI-E or AGP, PCI-E 2.0 didn't exist, so it doesn't talk about it
                Could that be why it doesn't talk about PCI-E 3.0 either?
                No, I was referring to PCI 1 or 1.1. I have previously been unable to find any info, but this page has a list of which chipsets supports it.
                http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/...ages/1241374/0

                It seems that I am stuck with 1.0a

                ETA: Btw does anybody know if the 8800 GT is available for old V 1.0 PCI express? I see them listed as either PCI-E 2.0 or PCI-E x16.

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                • =98=
                  Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 10299

                  #9
                  PCI-E 1.0 is PCI-E x16... same thing

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                  • CATIA

                    #10
                    I'm sorry for being SLOWWWWW. So the bottom line is, I can use the PCIE 2.0 on my current mobo which is running my 6600GT PCIE x16, am I right?

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                    • jubb jubb

                      #11
                      most new motherboards now have v1.1 but motherboards probably about 1 1/2 years ago didnt have v1.1.

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                      • Sam1990

                        #12
                        Originally posted by CATIA
                        I'm sorry for being SLOWWWWW. So the bottom line is, I can use the PCIE 2.0 on my current mobo which is running my 6600GT PCIE x16, am I right?
                        Yes you can. I ran a 8400GS which is PCI-E x16 on my motherboard and now I'm running a 8800GT which is PCI-E 2.0, so you shouldn't have a problem running it.

                        My guess is... PCI-E 2.0 motherboards will work with any PCI-E video cards?

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                        • looqas

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Vreki
                          Could that be why it doesn't talk about PCI-E 3.0 either?
                          No, I was referring to PCI 1 or 1.1. I have previously been unable to find any info, but this page has a list of which chipsets supports it.
                          http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/...ages/1241374/0

                          It seems that I am stuck with 1.0a

                          ETA: Btw does anybody know if the 8800 GT is available for old V 1.0 PCI express? I see them listed as either PCI-E 2.0 or PCI-E x16.
                          Thanks for the list. I had been looking for a similar one.

                          All P35 guys are clear meaning v1.1, but what's that with 965? Seems like that some stuff needs to be done. Can't really understand Flemish.

                          babelfish gives:
                          Peg-slot sit on Northbridge ICH8 have, however, some 1x, 1.1 slots
                          Still not understanding the meaning of this though. Anyway. I've got P35 so I shouldn't worry about this but this intrigues me.

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                          • =98=
                            Member
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 10299

                            #14
                            The P35 is basically the newer updated version of the P965 chipset. They both contain ICH9R and ICH8R northbridge chipsets respectively.

                            For new 1333mhz FSB based Intel Chips, a P35 board is the way to roll.

                            And, PCI-E 1x is the small, stubby little slot on the motherboard. It's rarely used and i believe only a few TV tuners or RAID cards use it. Effectively useless.

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                            • JustMe0171

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CATIA
                              Can someone plz educate me about the difference between the two PCIE? I am currently using a 6600GT PCIE, can I use a a 2.0 PCIE card when I upgrade? or do I need to buy a new mobo that uses a 2.0 PCIE slot?

                              Thanks,
                              Great news, your education is taken care of for free via the internet search bar & or google....:nod:

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