AGP vs. PCI Express

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Re: AGP vs. PCI Express

Nothing, the industry found a chance to milk our wallets and threw away an unsaturated AGP bus.

I've been trying to explain this to people for years now.

that was a very stupid response to a valid question....there is plenty different and it seems a few people have already answered this question with very smart and valid responses.

It was a perfectly legitimate response. Graphics cards were not saturating the AGP bus at all, but they decided to shunt PCI-E on us to make people buy new motherboards in order to upgrade. "Why would they want us to buy new motherboards?", you may ask. New motherboards for new graphics cards that need new RAM or have different processor sockets equal a lot of money in hardware. Then they have all of the OEMs; HP, Dell, Compaq, Gateway, shell out to incorporate them in their new builds. Also, M$ being the cute little end-user-lovers they are, you have to buy a new version of Windows in order to upgrade your motherboard. Windows can overlook pretty much any hardware change except for a motherboard upgrade. Smart users know you can call in and get your OS activated for your new hardware with not much hassle. Most users either buy a new copy of Windows or go out and buy a new pre-built system with OS installed.

It's all about the Benjamins, yo!

Let me put it this way, PCIexpress to AGP is like USB ports to COM ports....if you haven't moved on to USB yet you need to be smacked in the damn head.

This is a horrible comparison. USB ports didn't marginally increase performance and functionality over COM and parallel ports. They changed everything. A better comparison might be between Firewire and USB 2.0. They both have fairly similar performance, Firewire tends to cost more.

[nadicus]

Re: AGP vs. PCI Express

Nothing, the industry found a chance to milk our wallets and threw away an unsaturated AGP bus.

Ignorance at its finest.

PCI-Express, SATA and DDR2 were not chosen as future PC standards for their immediate advantages, but for their open-ended architecture, which opens up avenues of development that will eventually lead to much better performance than AGP/EIDE systems.

Yeah so things like PCIe take time to incorporate into the mainstream. If you don't want to get PCIe NOW, you don't have to. The benchmarks appear to be the same atm. Lets see it in 5 years.

[Gen.Vlade]

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I remember the good old days when I had ISA graphics card with 1MB video memory. It was good for Tetris and Test Drive. Then they came out with PCI cards and ruined the fun. This was long before AGP and PCI-E.

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Re: AGP vs. PCI Express

ignorance at its finest:shakehead:





Yeah so things like PCIe take time to incorporate into the mainstream. If you don't want to get PCIe NOW, you don't have to. The benchmarks appear to be the same atm. Lets see it in 5 years.

In 5 years they'll find yet another new standard that "opens up possibilities" while still failing to saturate AGP.

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The money factor is just lovely. You just can't say that had no effect.

"The full potential of the open-ended nature of our consumers' wallets can now be tapped in with technologies such as PCI-E"

I also have 2 SATA2 drives, and the highest sustained transfer rate I've gotten was around 30MB/S. So much for "150/350MB/S".

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In 5 years they'll find yet another new standard that "opens up possibilities" while still failing to saturate AGP.

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The money factor is just lovely. You just can't say that had no effect.

"The full potential of the open-ended nature of our consumers' wallets can now be tapped in with technologies such as PCI-E"

I also have 2 SATA2 drives, and the highest sustained transfer rate I've gotten was around 30MB/S. So much for "150/350MB/S".

Yeah, pwnt. I almost forgot about those shenanigans. Unless you have a 10,000 RPM drive, SATA=PATA. And even then, meh...

[TheButler208]

Re: AGP vs. PCI Express

if you decide to get a powerful agp card and use it with an under par processor, you might not see the difference you would had you chosen to put the card on a processor that can handle it. Its like putting drag radials on a Toyota Camry.