GFX card/case mod, huge temperature drops but CPU still high!

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  • camper.
    Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 3459

    #1

    GFX card/case mod, huge temperature drops but CPU still high!

    With roughly 30 minutes of work.

    Very simple.

    1.) Remove GFX card (8800gts here)

    2.) Take off crappy plastic airflow router - 4 screws hold it on, 2 near fan and 2 hidden in the semi-circular slots near the plastic exhaust grille (http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2007/02/11/40673.jpg). This will improve both airflow and make fan noise pretty silent and is imperative to this crap I just did. Either way, you want the heatsink of your GPU to be as exposed as possible. You also want to ensure the fan is out of the way, which is why it's best done on in-line coolers like the 8800GTS or x1950 series.

    3.) Take side of case, mark 4 holes for a 120mm fan. This fan must be positioned as near to the exposed heatsink, and the top of the fan should be level with the red/green/whatever PCB of the card.

    4.) Cut a huge fecking square hole into the side of your case using whatever you have, preferably a dremel tool. I used a hammer, chisel, and a roadside gutter cover thingy for the cutting (or rather, punching - something like THIS, yes, I REALLY did do it like that). Sorry neighbours :laugh:

    5.) Fit the 120mm fan. I don't know the CFM rating of mine, but it would be "****loads of air @ ear-shattering noise". It MUST exhaust a lot of air, those 8800s can fry eggs with ambient temperature alone.

    6.) Close case. You now have negative pressure differential assuming you did use a good fan. By good fan, I mean one that possibly blows your eardrums out, and replaces your room's air-conditioning. My feet are freezing. Also, beware of dust bunnies.

    7.) Using Rivatuner or some other tool, stick your GPU fan at 100% permanently. Most of the noise comes from turbulence with the crappy plastic cover (it's not so crappy when you don't do this mod, since it kept the temperature down from 82*C to 72*C full load on mine previously).

    Results
    • Ambient system temperature dropped from 46*C to 33*C (idle)
    • CPU dropped from 46*C to ~40*C (idle)
    • AUX dropped from 46*C to 45*C, have no idea what this reading is from
    • HD0 (upper mounted) dropped from 42*C to 31*C (slight load), 40*C to ~26*C (idle)
    • HD1 (bottom mounted) dropped from 39*C to 30*C (slight load), 38*C to ~24*C (idle)
    • CPU core temperatures fluctuate too much to tell, approx 5*C drop
    • GPU temperature (diode sensor) dropped from 82*C to 62*C (full load), 65*C to 52*C (idle) :shock:
    • GPU temperature (ambient) dropped from 62*C to 52*C (full load), 54*C to 39*C (idle)
    Teh pix for proof:

    Warmed up:


    Cooling down:


    Notice the temperature graphs. It takes around 1-2 minutes to heat up to full temperature as opposed to 30 seconds previously. It also takes 30 seconds to cool down to near idle temp, 1-2 minutes originally. I'm too ashamed of my case to post it up. Actually, I have no camera because I'm a cheap bastard. Some of the temperatures are probably exaggerated since 5 minutes is hardly enough time to get an accurate reading, but meh.



    Now, ending the e-peen fest (zomfg look @ teh clock ratez ololol!11!one1eleven), my CPU temp is insane. I don't want to open Intel's TAT because I know what the reading is going to be, and it's not going to be pretty. Any ideas on fixing that? It has one 120mm fan @1krpm piping air in, and 1 80mm fan perpendicular exhausting air, plus the exhaust effect of the 120mm fan underneath, I still have the stock Intel cooler with possibly damaged thermal pads.


    Any ideas as to how to cool that crap right down?

    :salute:
  • Predators28
    Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 282

    #2
    Re: GFX card/case mod, huge temperature drops but CPU still high!

    A bigger cpu heat sink perhaps just a thought

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    • Jakg

      #3
      Re: GFX card/case mod, huge temperature drops but CPU still high!

      Tried reseating your Heatsink with decent thermal paste? ie AS5?

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      • megawhompertoo
        oldswab
        • Dec 2005
        • 2124

        #4
        Re: GFX card/case mod, huge temperature drops but CPU still high!

        for $23, you can't beat this:



        and it is an excellent cooler for the price. Don't bother with the 'egg; they want $35 for it. i've got my p d 915 up to 3.75 (+1ghz me) and temps just barely spike above sixty C during lotro marathons.

        my si-128 is a better cooler, but it costs about $45, before you buy a fan for it. it teaches me not to shop for components while drinking...



        oh and edit: nice job w/your 8800

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        • camper.
          Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 3459

          #5
          Re: GFX card/case mod, huge temperature drops but CPU still high!

          I have issues with Arctic Cooling's fans. I have one pumping air at the CPU. Not much airflow at all, it's 120mm and running at 1krpm.

          What I was thinking is a Delta fan, one of these:

          There are two problems. I cant afford spoilers to stop my PC from taking flight with one, and also, it sounds like a Saturn V launch (google it). Does anyone know how to muffle it well, aside from 7V modding?




          Oh, and 8800GTS was (heh) running at 660/1040, at that speed it beats the GTX's shader clock rates. Maybe a bit of liquid cooling + volt modding *shudder*.


          Edit: Don't know if it's safe, but now it's at 675/1560/1040. I think I'm behaving a little too haphazardly with the clock rates, and somehow I think I'll learn an expensive lesson.

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          • Nightf1yer
            Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 673

            #6
            Re: GFX card/case mod, huge temperature drops but CPU still high!

            While the topic is airflow, perhaps someone can answer?
            Should i have more air going into case than out?
            I have a fan on the back pulling out hot air and smaller fan on the side pumping in air. This is giving negative air pressure? Should i have them the other way round for positive air pressure?
            Only those with knowledge should respond

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            • camper.
              Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 3459

              #7
              Re: GFX card/case mod, huge temperature drops but CPU still high!

              Positive pressure is just having air compressed more inside the case relative to the outside. It's less dusty, because of more airflow throughout the case. If you have cold ambient temperatures (room) go for it. Negative pressure is a cheap way to get good cooling (i.e. you need to spend more for good positive pressure), that's all I know. Positive works best with loads of unfanned vent holes. It forces the air out.

              Ideally, you want *slight* positive pressure and a ****load of airflow, meaning X CFM going in, X-1 CFM going out (well, not ideally, but it's good).

              Your layout is odd, why a fan on the side for intake? Usually it's at the front. A good knowledge of physics is all it takes. I think I missed that class :laugh:.

              I get pissed off reading red hot temperatures inside while my feet are freezing. I used to have all my components except GFX at around 24*C - 40*C, can't remember the fan layout.

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