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  • imported_SnowControl

    #1

    New computer, but what CPU?

    I'm about to buy a new computer, and just wanted some opinions on the hardware. I'm not very rich, so this is a rather expensive computer for me. What I'm mainly wondering about, is the CPU. I could save some money by going down to the AMD Athlon 64 3500+, instead of the 3700 which is in this computer.

    How big is the difference between these two CPUs? The cheapest one is about 2/3 of the price of the 3700.

    Poweersupply - NorthQ 4775-400BULK, ATX 400W, 120mm Vifte, 12-17dBA, 2xSATA, PCI-E, 20/24pin
    Motherboard - ECS NFORCE4-A939, nForce4, Socket-939, GbLAN, ATX, SATA, sound, Raid, PCI-Ex16
    CPU - AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 2.2GHz Socket 939, 1MB, BOXED m/vifte
    RAM - Corsair Value S PC3200 DDR-DIMM 1024MB Kit w/two matched Value Select 512MB
    Video Card - Gainward GeForce 7600GT 256MB 1.2ns DDR3 ,PCI-Express
    HDD - Samsung SpinPoint P120S 250GB SATA2 8MB 7200RPM

    This is copied from a norwegian site, i tried to translate all of the specs but i may have missed something.

    Anyone knowing anything about the 3500 vs 3700? Or other comments on this computer? The computer will be running bf2, and should also be ready for quake wars and perhaps bf2142. I'm probably not going to run Vista on this one.
  • DuffMan

    #2
    Re: New computer, but what CPU?

    If you're not the kind who absolutely must have the most powerful processor, and are more than happy to play with slightly reduced settings, go for the 3500. What you save can be spent on more RAM, or a step-up on the video card... or nothing, if you want to spend as little as possible.

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    • imported_SnowControl

      #3
      Re: New computer, but what CPU?

      Next step up on the video card is 7800/7900, which is way out of my league. And due to bad personal experience with ATI cards, im not gonna get that either.

      I dont need my card to run at ultra-high or anything, but somewhere between medium and high, with fps around 50. CPUs are rather easy to switch later as well, so that could be an option.

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      • lil_jimmy_norton

        #4
        Re: New computer, but what CPU?

        Do you plan on ever overclocking? If no get the 3500, if yes get the 3700.

        Either way I reccomend steering away from an ECS motherboard. Not known for being top quality.

        Also would reccomend finding a HD with 16MB cache, it shouldn't cost you any more.

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        • imported_Packerfan

          #5
          Re: New computer, but what CPU?

          If anything i would suggest an Opteron

          Mainly because you can overclock the heck out of them

          Even if you don't they are cheaper than X2s and run Cool

          Ive heard of someone making there speed 50% faster and they still had stock temps

          2.2ghz single 939


          Or you could
          2.0ghz dual 939


          The dual is a bit more but most future games will suport dual core increasing performance

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          • lil_jimmy_norton

            #6
            Re: New computer, but what CPU?

            Originally posted by Packerfan
            If anything i would suggest an Opteron

            Mainly because you can overclock the heck out of them

            Even if you don't they are cheaper than X2s and run Cool

            Ive heard of someone making there speed 50% faster and they still had stock temps

            2.2ghz single 939
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            Or you could
            2.0ghz dual 939


            The dual is a bit more but most future games will suport dual core increasing performance

            We don't even know if he is even interested in overclocking, so reccomending those at this point is pointless.

            Not to mention that both of those cost more than the 3700, and he's trying to save money.....

            Not to mention again, that they aren't cheaper than the X2s, they are about $30 more....

            Nice contribution...

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            • John Edmo

              #7
              Re: New computer, but what CPU?

              Have a listen to Jimmy cause he seems to talk a lot of sense.:salute: :salute:

              You guys start to confuse me with the nerdy jargon.



              All I want is to play BF2 with lots of pretty colours and nice true to life almost graphics.:banana: :banana: :banana:

              How Much???:nod: :nod: :nod:

              I'm off to play now,

              Catch you tomorrow

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              • TokenBrit

                #8
                Re: New computer, but what CPU?

                I would have to disagree with Jimmy about the hard disk. The Samsung HD is excellent, and 16mb cache on a 7200rpm drive will most likely be unnoticeable in anything except synthetic benchmarks. The 3500 is a perfectly adequate CPU, but as Jimmy said try to find a better branded motherboard. ASUS might be a good choice for a mid range board. Also I would look carefully at your power supply and consider choosing a better brand.

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                • ^nUbl4z0r(!)

                  #9
                  Re: New computer, but what CPU?

                  John Edmo, you are common to hijacking others threads...Make a new one and well be happy to help you

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                  • LoD

                    #10
                    Re: New computer, but what CPU?

                    Originally posted by TokenBrit
                    I would have to disagree with Jimmy about the hard disk. The Samsung HD is excellent, and 16mb cache on a 7200rpm drive will most likely be unnoticeable in anything except synthetic benchmarks. The 3500 is a perfectly adequate CPU, but as Jimmy said try to find a better branded motherboard. ASUS might be a good choice for a mid range board. Also I would look carefully at your power supply and consider choosing a better brand.
                    You're right, but I still would go with a 16MB cache drive, its just a few pennies more, and while the cache in and of its self doesnt really help, the 16MB models are usually 1-2 years newer, with more advanced platters and technology, meaning they are faster than older HDDs.

                    As for the PSU, I would probably upgrade it like you said.


                    @ the OP about the CPU. The 3700+ is a fine CPU, its probably the best affordable single core out there, but drop to a 3200+ or 3500+ if the savings allow you to bump up to a better video card. Video is king with games, remember that.

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                    • lil_jimmy_norton

                      #11
                      Re: New computer, but what CPU?

                      Originally posted by twsmit

                      @ the OP about the CPU. The 3700+ is a fine CPU, its probably the best affordable single core out there, but drop to a 3200+ or 3500+ if the savings allow you to bump up to a better video card. Video is king with games, remember that.
                      Or to bump up the RAM. 2GB does wonders. Given the choice of a 3700+ w/ 1GB of RAM vs. a 3200+ w/ 2GB RAM, the 3200+ w/ 2GB would be better for gaming. So if it's possible you may want to look at that.

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                      • LoD

                        #12
                        Re: New computer, but what CPU?

                        Originally posted by lil_jimmy_norton
                        Or to bump up the RAM. 2GB does wonders. Given the choice of a 3700+ w/ 1GB of RAM vs. a 3200+ w/ 2GB RAM, the 3200+ w/ 2GB would be better for gaming. So if it's possible you may want to look at that.
                        True that, I was just about to mention it.... hehe

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                        • imported_SnowControl

                          #13
                          Re: New computer, but what CPU?

                          wowow, I'm trying to save money, not spend more!

                          Yes, if i go down to the 3500, i can afford another gig of ram. The 7600 is more than good enough for me, from what i've heard. The 3200 has got some bad reviews on the website to the company i'm buying this from, so i'm not going down to that one. Its either 3700 with 1 gig ram, or 3500 with 2 gig.

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                          • Consultant01

                            #14
                            Re: New computer, but what CPU?

                            Here, do us a favor and give us your maximum budget in US Dollars. We will configure several options relative to that budget.

                            $800? $1000? $700? What kind of money are we talking about?

                            I've got some ideas but they are meaningless until I know your budget constraints.

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                            • imported_SnowControl

                              #15
                              Re: New computer, but what CPU?

                              We're talking around 7000 NOK (norwegian money), which is about the same as 1100 $. The problem is, buying stuff in US/Canada is much cheaper than it is over here. If you look at what a similar set up like the one in my first post will cost over there, you got a better understanding on how much i can spend. I'm guessing that it will be around $850-$1000, if you look at what you get for your money.



                              This is the site i'm planning on buying this off. You can configure what you want, and then they put it together for you, and ensure that everything work. I know its all written in norwegian, but you might make something out of it anyway. Its the best, cheapest and most well-known shop in norway, almost like newegg.

                              I'm not buying anything but the pc itself, no screen, speakers, mouse, keyboard or software. And i need a wireless network card.

                              Just come with ideas.

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