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  • Amnesic

    #1

    Computer question

    I know this has nothing to do with BF2 but this is the most populated spot on the forums and I need an answer. I am buying a computer from dell... yes i know but i dont feel like building one myself. I need to pick a hardrive and I need to know which one is better and whats the difference.

    160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/ Native Command Queuing

    160GB Data Security RAID 1 (2 x 160GB SATA HDDs w/ Native Command Queuing

    Whats the difference between them and is the second worth 100 dollars more? And what is Native Command Queing? And should I get more than 160 gigs, I think its more than enough but I just wondering what other peoples opinions are.

    Thanks
  • <}US{>BlackHawkPilot73

    #2
    Re: Computer question

    your best bet is the
    160GB Data Security RAID 1 (2 x 160GB SATA HDDs w/ Native Command Queuing

    beacuse the raid HD will give it a great boost of performence and most space and speed.

    you dont really dont need all the other stuff that comes with it.

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    • old sch00l
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 1087

      #3
      Re: Computer question

      The second one is mirrored [Raid 1].. so cost the extra bucks

      Basically one hard drive backs up the other constantly so you arn't likely to loose data. Uses 2 hard drives.

      Raid 0, the other variable, again uses two hard drives but instead of backing up, shares the data between the two drives, fast as f**k

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      • RocketChild
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2005
        • 3949

        #4
        Re: Computer question

        Originally posted by old sch00l
        The second one is mirrored [Raid 1].. so cost the extra bucks

        Basically one hard drive backs up the other constantly so you arn't likely to loose data. Uses 2 hard drives.

        Raid 0, the other variable, again uses two hard drives but instead of backing up, shares the data between the two drives, fast as f**k

        Correct, they are fast as hell. Not fast for the writing, but for the reading, which when loading a map is important, it can be a godsend, along with a lot of RAM.

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        • Amnesic

          #5
          Re: Computer question

          Ok great thanks everyone. So I guess the 160GB Data Security RAID 1 (2 x 160GB SATA HDDs w/ Native Command Queuing it is. So this will be fast at writing and reading and thanks everybody I really appreciate it.

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          • old sch00l
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 1087

            #6
            Re: Computer question

            Yeah, but, being fast as f**K does actually stress the drives approx x4, so look for the warrenty

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            • lil_jimmy_norton

              #7
              Re: Computer question

              Originally posted by Sir. BlackHawkPilot73
              your best bet is the
              160GB Data Security RAID 1 (2 x 160GB SATA HDDs w/ Native Command Queuing

              beacuse the raid HD will give it a great boost of performence and most space and speed.

              you dont really dont need all the other stuff that comes with it.
              You are confusing raid 1 and raid 0.

              RAID 1 offers only data security and no performance increase.

              Go with the first option. Unless you are working with really important stuff you don't need RAID 1.

              Originally posted by RocketChild
              Correct, they are fast as hell. Not fast for the writing, but for the reading, which when loading a map is important, it can be a godsend, along with a lot of RAM.

              See above.

              Originally posted by Silent1Hunter
              Ok great thanks everyone. So I guess the 160GB Data Security RAID 1 (2 x 160GB SATA HDDs w/ Native Command Queuing it is. So this will be fast at writing and reading and thanks everybody I really appreciate it.

              It will be no faster than the first. See above.

              Native Command Queueing:

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              • RocketChild
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2005
                • 3949

                #8
                Re: Computer question

                One caviet to remember. With RAID, if you don't have a dedicated RAID card, like servers have, then the buffering is passed off on regular system resources. E.g: it is taking system RAM and CPU time to process data between the RAID set, so in someways it bogs your machine down (a little). Just FYI.

                And when you get it, make sure you avoid sudden power downs!!!. Because the RAID set can get out of sync and you can loose data or the set. And if you have lots of pr0n on your box, you'll loose, game over.

                Originally posted by lil_jimmy_norton

                See above.
                sometimes forget that one, thanks. And I am a server admin for a big company too! LOL.

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                • old sch00l
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 1087

                  #9
                  Re: Computer question

                  You can also mirror raid 0 with 4 hard drives, so fast as f**k wearing a condom

                  To RocketChild: glad you don't look after my PC

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                  • Amnesic

                    #10
                    Re: Computer question

                    Ok sorry Iam really confused now, I should just go with the first one? 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/ Native Command Queuing

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                    • lil_jimmy_norton

                      #11
                      Re: Computer question

                      Originally posted by Silent1Hunter
                      Ok sorry Iam really confused now, I should just go with the first one? 160GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/ Native Command Queuing
                      Yes, unless you work with extremely important data.

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                      • Amnesic

                        #12
                        Re: Computer question

                        Ok then thanks, saved me a 100 dollars to

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                        • Rub-UFS-

                          #13
                          Re: Computer question

                          If there is a choice for 10,000 RPM HD, those are good for gaming. Faster read/write times... Raptor makes some good 10k HD's.

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                          • lil_jimmy_norton

                            #14
                            Re: Computer question

                            Originally posted by Rub-UFS-
                            If there is a choice for 10,000 RPM HD, those are good for gaming. Faster read/write times... Raptor makes some good 10k HD's.

                            Raptor doesn't make anything.

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                            • Blak_Phoenix

                              #15
                              Re: Computer question

                              Simple.. If you have very important data use the 2nd one, as you then have 2 HDD that are EXACTLY THE SAME. So if one goesm you have the other you can get all your info from. There is not performance increase using this!!!

                              If you dont need that duplicate of data as a safe guard... 99% of home users dont. Use the 1st options, saves money. They will both be just as fast as each other, the only difference is the EXTRA data safety in the 2nd option.

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