What do you want in MW 2

[imported_Recon]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

Yeah I can't really see that happening tbh, but you can hope..

[Lt Davis]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

What I'd really like to see is no way to change weapon damage or health on ranked servers. This combined with CoD4's server problems is the main reason why I stopped playing CoD4. I know it's highly unlikely that they'd remove that though.

[KC-10]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

I know, it wasn't to insult my "skills." I just couldn't resist posting that pic. I'm a pretty average gamer too, really, I just excel at dealing with limited FOV, like with the M21.

You are very observant, this is like playing a game of chess. Of course, a lot of those kills came from air support, but it was the M21 that initiated that support, wasn't it? (yes, the helo does hack)

I am from Australia, and you are correct in saying that there are few skilled players, or at least it feels like they are now waning.

[imported_Whiskey]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

I have found, that even with the graphics on the HIGHEST settings, that I can still see ghillie suits from a large distance away - the grass will cease to render. CoD is a game of waiting for pixel change. No matter how slowly you crawl, you can still see the ghillie suit move easily.

Are you running your game with a stock (default) config, or did you ever make changes or download an optimized config file? The reason I ask is because, even in stock, sometimes objects/grass will cease to render at distance, but it's not overly bad. However, with optimized configs, that stuff can be increased quite a bit, so that it's much easier to see people at distance.

I would think though, that if a sniper were to actually sit and wait, he would be in a predictable spot, such as the buildings in Crossfire, and would be found easily. Even without a UAV, its easy to find all the snipers in Overgrown, just by moving carefully and searching out the predictable spots.

Thing is, for people who don't snipe, those spots aren't predictable. Sure, they can guess general direction, and any window can be dangerous, but if you don't actually snipe, specific spots aren't 2nd nature. Unless you kill a lot of snipers in-place, or see their kill-cams, only then will non-snipers learn all the little nooks and crannies that they like to hide in. And good snipers don't just sit there in the open...they pop up, crouch down, prone, lean around debris, etc. So if they're doing all that, and are silenced, that's not cool for the rest of us.

Thats me, An-225 up the top. I don't like bragging, but you asked for it Whiskey! I guarantee, that was due largely to the M21 in CQC.

I didn't say it was impossible but in general, it's not a good idea and won't work on most servers. This is not meant to put down your skills at all, but:
1) your k/d ratio is 2:1, while that's good, it's not overly spectacular
2) you are tied for the best ping on that server. Of the 4 opponents shown, 2 of them have massively high pings, and one of those is leading their team. I'd guess that at least a couple of the others have high pings too, which gives you the advantage in CQC.
3) I'm thinking at least some of those kills came from chopper/airstrikes?
4) From the name of the server, I'm guessing you're in Australia? From what I understand, because of being so remote and the ping issues involved, you have a much smaller gaming population on local servers. This stands to reason that there will also be fewer players of med-high skill too.

Again, this isn't to insult your gaming prowess. I'm only an average player at best, but I rarely have problems with snipers in CQC situations. Sure, they'll shoot me a lot at distance, because I rarely camp and I like to move around (clearing out snipers and campers is actually what I enjoy doing, so that they can't sit in safety and get my team-mates). But if I come across one close by, unless he is good with a pistol, or gets lucky with a quick no-scope, by the time he snaps up his scope and is firing semi-auto (individual mouse clicks) in his reduced FOV, my assault rifle or smg is already putting several bullets in his direction. The odds are just not good for him.

[KC-10]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

Nah mate, I only use PS3 for WAW, IV and BF:BC.

I have found, that even with the graphics on the HIGHEST settings, that I can still see ghillie suits from a large distance away - the grass will cease to render. CoD is a game of waiting for pixel change. No matter how slowly you crawl, you can still see the ghillie suit move easily.

Fair point on the completely cloaked sniper. I would think though, that if a sniper were to actually sit and wait, he would be in a predictable spot, such as the buildings in Crossfire, and would be found easily. Even without a UAV, its easy to find all the snipers in Overgrown, just by moving carefully and searching out the predictable spots.

Maybe the silenced M21 might act to slow down the game a little, and make (some) people actually consider their actions, rather than KNOWING, that their team will score a UAV, and will instantly find that sniper.

Maybe the damage is reduced to the point that you can look at the hit indicators to see where it came from?

And on the note about not lasting very long in CQC with an M21:


Thats me, An-225 up the top. I don't like bragging, but you asked for it Whiskey! I guarantee, that was due largely to the M21 in CQC.

[imported_Whiskey]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

Really, the M21 is just the M14 with magnifying optics that reduce the FOV, so why can't it be silenced?

Basically, because of the scope. It increases the effective range, because you can see your target across the map and put a pinpoint accurate shot on them. With a silenced M14, you're limited to ironsights so you can't see nearly as far nor shoot with pinpoint accuracy, and the damage seems to be reduced even further. Try it out yourself. The reduced FOV is irrelevant, since most people use a sniper rifle at distance, not CQC, so it's not a big enough disadvantage.

And even if the M21 was the only silenced sniper rifle, then almost everyone would choose it (unless the penalties of Perk 2 I talked about earlier were implemented). So it doesn't matter if you allow just 1, or all. If there's a superweapon out there, people will use it.

The very effective ghillie suit, accuracy with scope, higher damage, and range of the sniper rifles already make them extremely powerful. If you add the silencer so that they don't show up on the mini map (softcore) and you can't hear them (hardcore) then they'll become too strong unless you take away enough other things (ie. Stopping Power, UAV Jammer, etc). You can't have a completely hidden/cloaked sniper in this game. It's just not fair without severe tweaks made to the class in other areas.

ps. I don't know if you're still talking about Console when it comes to COD4, but if you try to run around in CQC with a sniper rifle on PC, you probably won't last very long.

[KC-10]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

Much like my propositions for the other weapons, the M21 would be the only sniper to receive the attachment, its just impractical to fit a silencer onto an M40 or SVD or M82.

Its just my playstyle, but I ditch any other weapon, and I take the M21 in for CQC. I use it as an assault rifle (because it is really an M14), but with the benefit of optics, and those optics come at the cost of limited FOV.

The M14 can be silenced, I don't really understand the threat of having a silencer on (only) the M21. I would certainly not mind if the damage was reduced, because I would like to go for CQC with the M21 and without everyone else knowing where I am. Killcam is also in place as an anti-camping method.

To disallow having UAV Jammer + suppressor would vanquish the point of having an SD attachment for it in the first place. Really, the M21 is just the M14 with magnifying optics that reduce the FOV, so why can't it be silenced?

I know that all sniper rifles do a base damage of 70, but the M21 just does not have the multiplier damage of the M82, or SVD.

[imported_Whiskey]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

There was no real reason to leave out the suppressor on the M21, so I would like to see that as an option for the M21 this time (if the M21 is in).

There is a (legit) concern that allowing suppressed sniper rifles in MP would tip the balance too far in that direction and make snipers over-powered.

IF they do allow a suppressed sniper rifle in MW2, then I think it would have to come at the cost of some significant penalty...maybe something like, if you use a suppressor, it would cost you your Perk 2 slot. That way, you won't have access to Stopping Power, Juggernaut, Overkill, or UAV Jammer.

This would allow snipers to be silent, but not hide from the UAV, carry 2 weapons, or always get a 1-hit kill. I think this is the only way you could allow the extra stealth of a suppressor, without over-powering the sniper class.

[[FM]JoeCool4433]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

honestly, i would be very, VERY surprised if IW were to put in a suppressor for any sniper rifles. if they did however, the range and damage would def be nerfed. the simple fact is that with a suppressor and uav jammer perk u would be virtually invisible in a good location, which i know is the point, but it goes against cod's fast-paced game type. if suppressors were available to all snipers, there would be so many campers rather then a tactical sniper who has to worry about other sneaking up on him and from attracting too much attention from enemy snipers. thats why there is this thing called repositioning :thumbsup:

[KC-10]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

It would be nice to have specific equipment for each weapon (where applicable) this time too.

So many guns that were in SP were left out in MP.

M4 SOPMOD (with working PEQ-2 laser)
M4 Aimpoint
M4 Grenadier (Eotech holographic sight)
G36 Aimpoint
AK-47 PSO-1
M21 Suppressed

I strongly dislike the Red Dot Sight, and I would rather have an Aimpoint CompM2 on my M4 and G36.

There was no real reason to leave out the suppressor on the M21, so I would like to see that as an option for the M21 this time (if the M21 is in).

AK-47 should have had the PSO-1, not the ACOG. The same goes for the Dragunov, instead of the generic western scope, it should have had a PSO-1.

The M21's default camo should be the lizard-woodland you see in the sniper missions, not an all anthracite camo.

[imported_Recon]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

And I thought i hated treyarch, seeing this, i want to go out and buy WAW because i actually feel sorry for them now

All this rant about WaW, just go buy it

[5t3v0]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

• a female character named Tina would be cool
• Less treyarch
• Oh, and an enemy called Pvt. Trey Arch to shoot in the arse.
• punishment for team killing rather than just penalizing respawn time
• The ability to chose the sex of your character for multi-player and single-player. Sexy Marine chicks ftw!
• I'd like to see Godzilla as the final boss. Thanks in advance.
• dead bodies more realistic, since when can people run through dead people? dont they have to jump or step on dead person
• Mke it just like COd 4, improve upon it and we have game of the year 2009
• A Snow covered mountain town. and have the snow comming down hard. with players foot prints everywhere.
• A complete lack of player-controlled vehicles. Leave that crap to Halo.
• can we have some kind of war cry during matches..it would be so awesome to see a berserk enemy doing a war cry..if it can be done
• Small Suggestion. Ability to actually kill the pilot in a helicopter by shooting at the cockpit glass.
• PLEASE DONT MAKE THIS FU**ING GAME
• I wanna see urban combat in a Western (Preferably US) setting
• The ability to throw your empty pistol as a last ditch defense/attack.
• Dismemberment.
• a different phrase instead of "tango down in section one alpha" I've heard that a million times now.
• Brutality greatly adds to a game, we want blood, guts, and dismemberment....
• at 20 kill streak give the ability to call in Chuck Norris
• How about a teaser screenshot on your website?
• Best grafics (able to compare to Killzone 2 ones)
• If you're going to have customizable characters, facial hair options are a MUST!
• Also, make a headshot noise that makes them really satisfying.
• I'd like to see my feet, no joke, the character's feet would be awesome
• NO ZOMBIES. People stop it with zombies. Go play Left4 Dead.
• more blood/gore (specifically, explosives causing dismemberment)
• Get another kickass guitar riff for when you rank up and complete a challenge. That thing makes my day.
• Dead cert: Iranian Embassy siege courtesy of Britains SAS!
• More maps with more trees and bushes
• MORE WATERMELONS
• more chemical weapons and more chemical based grenades
• STEADY AIM NEEDS TO GET STEADIER
• Only count time spent in Online Public Games towards Overall Playtime.
• Easter eggs mocking CoD:WaW
• A level called F**k treyarch like mile high club but you have to assassinate the VIP (the ceo of treyarch)

And I thought i hated treyarch, seeing this, i want to go out and buy WAW because i actually feel sorry for them now

[imported_Recon]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

I don't like to many of the ideas on that list. Hope those were the worst.

"These are some of the more amusing / astonishing features that probably won't be as high on Infinity Ward's list of things to do as they will be on its list of things not to do."

Yeah, they were joke ones.

And yeah, I like WaW too, there are lots of haters out there though, watch your back

[-Shifty-]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

I think COD:WaW is great. Where's the problem?

I don't like to many of the ideas on that list. Hope those were the worst.

[imported_Whiskey]

Re: What do you want in MW 2

Again, my only experience with Second Chance has been on console, so therefore, my point is not as defined for PC.

Gah! I keep forgetting you're a Console player on that game. Every time you write something, I'm always wondering why it seems so completely opposite to what I've seen, then I get reminded because of the Console play. :laugh:

We gotta get you to put some kind of disclaimer on your posts or in your sig until you make the jump to PC.