Spiesek in a gunship

[WolfAlmighty]

Re: Spiesek in a gunship

Really? I've had many times where I start taking damage in my tank only to find out that the enemy gunship has started to pound on me with no warning.

Now I'm confused.

~Wolfgang

[Fingulfin]

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Both kinds of missiles, TV and F1, give off "Rocket Tracking" alerts.

[WolfAlmighty]

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Good thing about TV missiles is no warnings to other vehicles unlike the rockets. Plus i get to control it.

Wait, what? Isn't it the other way around, at least for ground vehicles? I only get warnings in tanks when I'm being targeted with a TV, not with just the pilot's POV. Also on single player the bots won't throw up their shields when you lay into them with regular rockets, but they will if you light them up with TV missiles (most of the time).

~Wolfgang

[Amaranthuse]

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I save normal missiles and use TV missiles on almost everything! I don't know why...Just don't like the normal rockets. They are only good to drain enemy shields or peel off a skin of armor before i put a TV missile into it.

TV missile reminds me of hellfire missiles and the normal rockets are like the hydras. If you play Commanche 4 or any series you would know what i am talking about lol.

Good thing about TV missiles is no warnings to other vehicles unlike the rockets. Plus i get to control it.

[Fingulfin]

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I'm not ignorant to the obvious advantages of the Talon... Just because its better is no reason not to use it; thats just dumb. I don't "whore" it per se, but as a general rule I am normally on EU (part of my strategy for keeping a 4+ W/L Ratio). I won't "not fly" simply because of my side...

My gunship priority is:
SAAWs > Other Gunships > Walkers > Turrets (Rorsches & Titan Guns > Air Trannys > Offensive Ground (APC, Tank) > Infantry > FAV > Commander Assets.

I use the TVs almost exclusively, I save the normal missiles for enemy gunships and to drain an enemies shields (fire off three of these at an enemy, you can be 90% sure that they will drain shields giving you a clean TV Shot).

[-Shifty-]

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WalkerzZz are l33t!!!


Lol if I knew I could trust my team to spot the enemy gunship I'd fly alot lower and be more of a help, but when I know there's two other gunships out there and 15 noobs on the team I need to fly high and look low. Also I never use the Talon, BF2142's J10.

[Lolyn]

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My priority in a gunship is : Enemy gunship > Air transport > APC/Titan guns > Tank/Walker > FAV > Infantry > Command objects.

I'd put walker infront of APC/titan guns - the walker second seat has the potential to be hella annoying.

[Amaranthuse]

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That's what I do. I fly at around 150m above the ground looking for enemy ground units to hinder or destroy. When a teammate calls out a vehicle, I respond to that immediately.

Of course I also rely on my teammates on the ground to watch my back. When it comes to AA guns and SAWW or enemy gunships, I rely on them to tell me where they are.

My priority in a gunship is : Enemy gunship > Air transport > APC/Titan guns > Tank/Walker > FAV > Infantry > Command objects.

[-Shifty-]

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Great vid! That is some slick flying. Personally I think gunships are tactically useless from an objective stand point. They don't take silos or caps (unless they want to be vulnerable to ground fire) and the cant destroy a titan core. So that leaves them with one thing to do, killing just like snipers do on an infantry standpoint. But if you pick your targets wisly (which most pilots dont) then you can benefit your team. Many a time I sit hiding from a Bogartyr in a nich praying that a friendly gunship would stamp him out so I can take an objective. But I find gunships pilots to be more eager to help themselves rather than help a comrade on the ground. Feel free to disagree.

I agree

Most pilots just fly low and try to take infantry out with rockets or wait for an airtransport or gunship to take off then take that out. But a good gunship pilot and gunner are usually friends or people in a clan using VOIP, because they'll prevent anybody from trying to take a silo or land on the Titan.

The best way to do this is fly around 200-250m and wait for somebody to spot something, or once a silo/flag is lost to dive in and make sure nobody takes it,

Re: Spiesek in a gunship

Great vid! That is some slick flying. Personally I think gunships are tactically useless from an objective stand point. They don't take silos or caps (unless they want to be vulnerable to ground fire) and the cant destroy a titan core. So that leaves them with one thing to do, killing just like snipers do on an infantry standpoint. But if you pick your targets wisly (which most pilots dont) then you can benefit your team. Many a time I sit hiding from a Bogartyr in a nich praying that a friendly gunship would stamp him out so I can take an objective. But I find gunships pilots to be more eager to help themselves rather than help a comrade on the ground. Feel free to disagree.

[-Shifty-]

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You sir are a moron. TV Soloing isn't "Exploitation". Pod Surfing is Exploitation. Glitching into buildings is exploitation. I asked EA Customer Support about certain things including RDXing to get on roofs, solo'ing and Jihading. NONE of those are exploiting. In fact, if EA/DICE considered exploiting, they could EASILY code it so you can't do it.

Solo'ing is an art that takes HOURS of practice and a ton of patience. If you can't respect that, you are nothing but another casualty.

I always love what you have to say!

As for the movie, I thought the Soloing was wonderful, music was great. 80% Talon though is kind of cheap. Seeing as it's so hard to shoot down with missles.

I'm into solo TVing now, I love nailing a Talon from behind, I just follow him till he spots a juicy ground target then I let him have it.

[Fingulfin]

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You sir are a moron. TV Soloing isn't "Exploitation". Pod Surfing is Exploitation. Glitching into buildings is exploitation. I asked EA Customer Support about certain things including RDXing to get on roofs, solo'ing and Jihading. NONE of those are exploiting. In fact, if EA/DICE considered exploiting, they could EASILY code it so you can't do it.

Solo'ing is an art that takes HOURS of practice and a ton of patience. If you can't respect that, you are nothing but another casualty.

[imported_Immunity]

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He just swaps seats / solo guides - no respect deserved whatsoever for that kind of exploitation.

If he could do what he did from the main seat then yea, respect. But this crap? Hell no

[Fingulfin]

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He probably does hit F2-Right Click-Left Click-F1-C. I do, and it takes less than a second.

The gunship fires its TV slightly below the green "things" on the side that are supposed to indicate Hover/Thrust.

To become "weightless", point your nose up a bit. You fall soooo much slower, you can have as much time as you want with your TV cam.

[WolfAlmighty]

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Y'know, it's videos such as these that make me love the BF series. As overpowered as the jets in BF2 (well, on some maps anyway) could be, it was still so much fun watching someone just kick @$$ and take names in one. Kind of like watching someone throw a no-hitter, I guess. Just to see a master of the craft at work. It's a thing of beauty. And, in my case, envy, since I've never been more than pedestrian at either the BF2 jets or the BF2142 gunships. I must say, dude, those are some amazing kills. Good on you. Are you sure you don't use a TV macro? The screen just kind of blinks and then everything below you dies. Do you honestly hit F2 (or whichever key I'm sure you've reassigned it to), right-click, left-click, and F1 (again, reassigned) in about 1/8 of a second? Not that I'd fault you for using macros or anything, but if you don't then you have some of the fastest reflexes I've ever seen.

Two things, though - is the TV missile camera's POV always just below the pilot's POV? It seemed like on those 'flicker shots' (dunno what you call them ) the pilot's centre view was just ahead/above what you were TVing. Secondly, and this is just the gunship noob in me showing through, how do you stay so agile while inverted? It's almost like you're weightless in the air and you can flip and spin and loop without even losing any altitude (I know you do, it just seems like you don't). I'm kind of like a turtle in the gunship; when I'm on my back I'm screwed. Do you have your mouse set to really high DPI or do you cut the throttle or something?

Well anyway enough of my stupid questions. Excellent skills, mate. And people wonder why I find playing 24/7 Gib boring after not too long.

~Wolfgang