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  • -=TS=-stuntridah
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    I dont know, thats all it would have taken. Also if one person wanted to fly against me I would have been to busy to bomb assets. But they were wrong to ban me, as it states in ROE bombing runs specificly targeting enemy commanders assets are always allowed. That means server admins are not allowed to change that rule.

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  • imported_Kold81
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    Hmm why didnt people on the carrier just hop in the bigass AA guns?? no need for a ban IMO

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  • Donkey
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    Originally posted by KoMeT*[NL]
    Because they mostly shoot and rules are rules a support guy has nothing do on the carrier the Spec Ops have four C-4'S if a Support guy could have been his slave then they would give the Spec Ops more C-4'S.. So Support guys aren't allowed on the carrier.

    And besided wouldn't it be rather annoying constantly having your essets destroyed? I guess the Support guy wouldn't die without shooting so he shoots back..
    So the commander, who shouldnt be flying goes and kills the two of them....Hence the annyoance of losing his/her assets is not a problem....GOSH!!!

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    Very well said!

    Fact is, the people that are complaining the most about rules, don't PAY for nothing, they just want all servers to be the way THEY want them.

    Solution for you complainers: PAY FOR YOUR OWN SERVER AND RUN IT HOWEVER YOU WANT IT!

    or

    DON'T PLAY ON SERVERS THAT HAVE RULES YOU DON'T LIKE!

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  • CensoredByGod
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    Ahhhh sh**, you see? its not hard to understand.

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  • Uberduber
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    Gotta love admins/players who hide behind all these nonsensical rules.
    Once I got kicked & banned for "attacking an enemy jet as it was reloading/repairing". ie flying over the carrier.

    Edit: (Note that specific attacks targeting the enemy commander’s asset buildings are always allowed, even if they are within the enemy main base.)
    This sounds to me like it contravenes any rules the server may put in place about not entering uncaps. You are "ALWAYS ALLOWED" to enter an uncap if your sole intent is to destroy enemy assets, by any means. The precious ROE guarantees this right. What does it matter if it's C4 or bombs?

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  • imported_Deliverance
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    Again, i suggest you read it properly, that is an EXAMPLE of a rule a server CAN have, just as they could have this rule:

    Making attacks on enemy main bases (flags that cannot be captured), including artillery strikes, vehicle drops to block runways, bombing runs with aircraft or sustained infantry attacks. (Note that only Spec-Ops are allowed to attack commander assets)

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  • Roger Smith
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    Originally posted by R.J.Macreedy31
    If I can't bomb your uncap, then you should not be able to use the IGLA there. If I'm chasing a plane into the Essex territory and not allowed to touch anything on the deck, why are some people still spamming missles at me from the Essex? Where is my defense? I should be allowed to take you out if you start to target me from an uncappable.

    This uncap rule creates so many grey areas it almost always results in my being kicked. I don't have the time nor the patience to play on servers with a customized ruleset that requires nothing short of a law degree to interpret.
    agreed

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  • imported_Deliverance
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    Originally posted by stunt ridah
    Deliverence I think you missed this 1 line [B]
    Jesus, did you not listen in your english lesson at school?

    I didnt miss that line at all, its in my post quite clearly. What you seem to be missing is the fact that it is contained within a 'sample' rule as part of that rule.

    This whole portion is a SAMPLE of a rule that a server CAN have. It also says that Server admins CAN modify rules. Which is the bit you dont quite get. Tell you what, ill leave out all the crap, and just quote the portions you are having trouble understanding.

    This is the bit which says server admins can change the rules, see, understand?

    Server Administrators may implement and enforce rules that result in minor changes to gameplay behaviour or styles as long as these are clearly stated before a player starts playing on a server.
    This is the bit which says that the rules listed a) to g) are examples of rules that servers can have. Understand?

    Examples of such rules that are acceptable are:
    And lastly, the one you seem obsessed with, and note the quote above, it is an EXAMPLE rule that a server CAN have. Ie a server CAN (if THEY want) say that you cannot attack red circles, but you can bomb assets.

    Equally, they CAN (if they want) say that you cannot attack red circles at all, including bombing assets.

    Do you understand NOW? Or do we really need to get IndianScout in here?

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  • zipp0r
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    Originally posted by R.J.Macreedy31
    If I can't bomb your uncap, then you should not be able to use the IGLA there. If I'm chasing a plane into the Essex territory and not allowed to touch anything on the deck, why are some people still spamming missles at me from the Essex? Where is my defense? I should be allowed to take you out if you start to target me from an uncappable.

    RJ

    indeed

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  • CensoredByGod
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    (Note that specific attacks targeting the enemy commander’s asset buildings are always allowed, even if they are within the enemy main base.)

    Which part of that satement is causing everyone so much grief. Regardless of what the rest of the rule states regarding bombing uncaps and admins able to make there own uncap rules. The part there that says "ALWAYS ALLOWED" doesnt seem to be getting thru. You wanna keep posting up the same crap "Admins can do what the want with uncaps" The "ALWAYS ALLOWED" part is the most important in regards to the topic at hand.

    You cant intentionally hit the uncap, but you are "ALWAYS ALLOWED" to hit the commander assets and be in the uncap for that purpose. What is the difficulty in understanding that?

    IndianScout how about you put an end to this and tell everyone exactly what this means?

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  • -=TS=-stuntridah
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    Deliverence I think you missed this 1 line So it is you that cant comprehend words my friend. Oviously you are not going to agree so I am through with this thread. So for the last time it says in english

    you can modify the rule for language
    you can modify the rule for TK'ing and causing TK's
    -transport chopper flag capping
    -c4 on vehicles
    then it says NOTE PLEASE READ SLOW IN CASE YOU ARE MENTALLY CHALLENGED

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  • imported_Deliverance
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    Originally posted by stunt ridah
    Hey Deliverence how come you did not say anything about the section of ROE I wanted you to read, are you embaresed now or what??? Im going to keep listing it to make it easy for you to find section 2.3.2 read it.
    http://www.bfroe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=171

    Clearly, you either arent able to read, or you havent yet grasped the basics of the English language. To Avoid further confusion, below is the ENTIRE portion of section 2.3.2 of the RoE from the link you have provided.

    2.3.2 Allowed “In-House” Ranked Server Rules:

    Server Administrators may implement and enforce rules that result in minor changes to gameplay behaviour or styles as long as these are clearly stated before a player starts playing on a server. These rules typically introduce minor restrictions on how a certain aspect of the game can be used.

    Examples of such rules that are acceptable are:

    (a) Players may not use explicit, offensive or racist language in-game.

    (b) Players may not impersonate clan members or other server administrators.

    (c) Players may not deliberately performing actions that hinder their own team (such as last-minute team-swapping to increase scores or statistics, excessive team-killing, destroying friendly vehicles, attacking team-mates,

    deliberately placing themselves in a situation so they cause another player to team-kill them, using a vehicle while being the Commander that prevents them from performing any Commander functions (jet, etc.) or placing vehicles to block their own runways.

    (d) Making attacks on enemy main bases (flags that cannot be captured), including artillery strikes, vehicle drops to block runways, bombing runs with aircraft or sustained infantry attacks. (Note that specific attacks targeting the enemy commander’s asset buildings are always allowed, even if they are within the enemy main base.)

    (e) Using transport helicopters to quickly capture all flags with no attempt to engage the other team (flag hopping).

    (f) Using C4 explosives on fast-moving vehicles to destroy other vehicles (C4-ramming)

    (g) Ignoring requests from Server Administrators or abusing Server Administrators.
    Obviously you didnt notice the preface which states, and i quote "Examples of such rules that are acceptable are:" which is then followed by the portion you are banging on about which states, and i quote "(d) Making attacks on enemy main bases (flags that cannot be captured), including artillery strikes, vehicle drops to block runways, bombing runs with aircraft or sustained infantry attacks. (Note that specific attacks targeting the enemy commander’s asset buildings are always allowed, even if they are within the enemy main base.)"

    Now, obviously you are unable to comprehend what that means, so let me explain it in clear and simple english, be sure to read it slowly, and reread it again to make sure you understand. What that says is that"(d) Making attacks on enemy main bases (flags that cannot be captured), including artillery strikes, vehicle drops to block runways, bombing runs with aircraft or sustained infantry attacks. (Note that specific attacks targeting the enemy commander’s asset buildings are always allowed, even if they are within the enemy main base.)" CAN be used as a rule by server admins. It doesnt state that it IS a rule for all servers, just that a server CAN have that rule.

    The part you dont seem to understand is, and i quote "Server Administrators may implement and enforce rules that result in minor changes to gameplay behaviour or styles as long as these are clearly stated before a player starts playing on a server." which again, in plain, simple english means that Server admins CAN modify any rule as they see fit, provided it is displayed at the start of the game, and that it does not contravene any other EA enforced rule contained within the RoE.

    Now, you can debate this all you like, but i have read the RoE many times, and have discussed it many times with members of the Ranked Server 'super admins', like IndianScout for example. Whether you choose to beleive what you do or not is irrelevant, because you are wrong. It has been clearly explained to you that you are wrong, and why you are wrong.

    Christ, can IndianScout or Colin Clarke, or anyone else in power please just put this guy out of his misory.

    Originally posted by stunt ridah
    So I would like to know Deliverences I.P. for his server so I can bomb the $hit out of his assets then report him for banning me because he changed the rule about assets that EA's ROE forbids him to change
    And i would like to know your Hash Key so that i can ban you from all of our servers if you wouldnt mind.

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  • R.J.Macreedy31
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    If I can't bomb your uncap, then you should not be able to use the IGLA there. If I'm chasing a plane into the Essex territory and not allowed to touch anything on the deck, why are some people still spamming missles at me from the Essex? Where is my defense? I should be allowed to take you out if you start to target me from an uncappable.

    This uncap rule creates so many grey areas it almost always results in my being kicked. I don't have the time nor the patience to play on servers with a customized ruleset that requires nothing short of a law degree to interpret.

    Another great example is a server requiring teamspeak or utilizing Voip. If I choose not to speak with you, it should be my decision. If I decide not to join a sqaud, it probably means I would be better off performing duties myself.

    I try not to play on Clan servers anymore. I found that most will create any rule they want anytime to suit their power ego. The only people that really keep coming back theretoplayare the ones that think they're special enough to eventually join, whatever.

    RJ

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  • -=TS=-stuntridah
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    Hey Deliverence how come you did not say anything about the section of ROE I wanted you to read, are you embaresed now or what??? Im going to keep listing it to make it easy for you to find section 2.3.2 read it.
    http://www.bfroe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=171


    Originally posted by shiftymoves
    No bombing uncap...What is there about that dont you GET????
    Shifty you need to read it too. We are not talking about bombing uncaps, we are talking about bombing assets so pay attention. State your question right if you want a answer.

    The section of ROE listed above says all assets are fair game all the time for plane bombings and spec opps on foot, also server admins can not change rules about that.

    So I would like to know Deliverences I.P. for his server so I can bomb the $hit out of his assets then report him for banning me because he changed the rule about assets that EA's ROE forbids him to change.


    Originally posted by lamri35UK
    I quoted myself because perhaps you didn't read it last time.
    READ IT and stop moaning about it FFS
    Areyou talking to me if so, you are still avoiding my question. Did you read ROE and see im right, very easy to answer "Yes" or "No" you keep saying the same thing

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