CTD with no error after 5 minutes gametime, AMD/ATi

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  • Psaldorn

    #1

    CTD with no error after 5 minutes gametime, AMD/ATi

    This has been pasted from the ea forums just to try and maximise the help received :)

    Symptoms:

    - CTD with no errors after 5 minutes actual playing time (or there abouts, never any longer). This only occurred after 1.2 patch and no new patches have fixed it.

    Possibly related:
    - Game freezes then speaksrs "pop" for a moment just after I'm loaded into the server. (Found to be related to using either EAX or Hardware sound)

    - Cobra/Hind TV-Guided missiles view causes instant errorless CTD as well. No idea if they are related. (Help about this is appreciated)

    Tried:

    - Installing Service Pack 2
    - Reinstalling with squential patches
    - Reinstalling with whole patches
    - Reinstalling without SF
    - Virus scan
    - Spyware scan
    - Updated Punkbuster
    - Used old and new GFX drivers (all recommended ones + more)
    - Using lower graphical settings
    - Using higher graphical settings
    - Using custom graphical settings
    - Disabling 3d Sounds etc
    - Updating soundcard driver
    - Replacing some sound DLL to make Audigy work better*
    - Removing GFX softmod
    - Overclocking GFX
    - Underclocking GFX
    - Using house fan to cool innards (CPU 30C, GPU 60C in-game)
    - Removed StarForce with removal tool
    - Used fixed Pagefile
    - Used system managed Pagefile

    * http://forum.eagames.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3256 trying this again to see if patch overwrote it
    Edit: Apparently not.. still broken.

    I think that's everything..

    Specs:

    - ALthon XP 2700+
    - 1Gb RAM (2x512) 2.5 CAS (Micron Tech PC2700)
    - ATi X800 VIVO softmodded to have 16 pipelines
    - MSI-6590 KT400
    - Creative Audigy 2
    - Sharp LL

    Software:

    - Windows XP Pro SP1 and now SP2
    - ATItool (temp monitoring)
    - ATI management thing
    - TrendMicro Internet Security 8/PC-Cillin

    Notes:

    - Plays TES IV: Oblivion just fine, same for CS:S and a whole host of other games. This problem only started to happen after the 1.2 patch, never crashed before that.

    - Get FPS of around 25 with current settings (Custom, 1034x768x60) no graphical artefacts afaik.

    - Nothing in event log etc other than strange punkbuster service starting("d4k7b3a4" - Google references were slim and useless).

    If anyone else recognises these symtoms or something similar then please help me fix it.. please..

    Edit:
    I'll see if my offline game lasts longer than 5 minutes, see if it's something to do with a) network card or b) something in the game I can't help.

    [added May 21 2006 4:35AM]

    In Reply To #1

    Happens in singleplayer after about 10 minutes.. don't know what else to try; no spare graphics cards laying around and the fact it's related to the patch makes me think its something that EA/Dice need to fix. I.E. I'm never going to be able to play BF2 again unless I spend more money or wait for it to be accidentally fixed by another patch.

    [added May 21 2006 5:29AM]

    Update:
    Nothing seems to work but I have found that using LOW (including all sound options and EAX off) settings means I can play singleplayer for about 20 minutes, but it still crashes in the end anyway.
    I'll see if I can narrow the option that is inducing this timer effect down.

    It is NOT temperature, I opened my case and touched all major components and regions of my GFX card and none of it was even close to being hot, barely warm in fact.

    I've tried underclocking my system a little and I can play for longer periods but I've only just diagnosed the TV-Camera crash whic I might have been occasionally thinking was the "normal" CTD so I'll have to go back and check some other things AGAIN. My annoying-hardware sense is tingling and telling me it's something to do with sound card or just the 1.2 patch making BF2 hate my graphics card. Joy.

    Update 2:
    Left singleplayer running for a while, all seemed to be fine, but as soon as you actually start shooting or anything.. CTD. Starting to think this isn't worth all the hassle, I only patch so I can play on ranked servers, I could just revert to pre-1.2 and play in peace ffs.
  • Talus
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 6854

    #2
    Re: CTD with no error after 5 minutes gametime, AMD/ATi

    Well, BF2 CTDs for me with no errors sometimes too..and I am REALLY ANAL about optimizing for BF2 performances.

    Sounds like you've tried just about everything.

    In your case, I'd wait for v1.3 which is just around the corner.

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    • Psaldorn

      #3
      Re: CTD with no error after 5 minutes gametime, AMD/ATi

      *Grumble*
      Any lists of knwon bugs being tackled in new patches? EA forum seems to just be "new patch soon!" - it would be great to know if this problem was actually being worked on, it's lack of error message doesn't help though. At least I got rid of the memory allocation error.

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      • Psaldorn

        #4
        Re: CTD with no error after 5 minutes gametime, AMD/ATi

        Ran memtest after 8 passes found nothing.
        Pants.

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        • The_Misfit

          #5
          Re: CTD with no error after 5 minutes gametime, AMD/ATi

          Are you 100% sure on the temps reported? What did you use to verify temps, bios, or a program like MBM5. Just curious.

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          • Psaldorn

            #6
            Re: CTD with no error after 5 minutes gametime, AMD/ATi

            SpeedFan for CPU and HDD
            ATItool for GPU plus I opened and felt the components right after crash and having a 40cm fan blowing right on it doesn't seem to yield any difference.

            1.3 patch details don't mention fixing crashes but who knows.. I'll see what happens tonight, if it crsahes again I'll get BIOS to check temp too. Can't hurt.

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            • DosX

              #7
              Re: CTD with no error after 5 minutes gametime, AMD/ATi

              Bump the RAM voltage a bit, maybe .1 or .2 and see if it helps.

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              • Psaldorn

                #8
                Re: CTD with no error after 5 minutes gametime, AMD/ATi

                put it to it's highest level (only had 3 settings + auto) and it seemed to crash faster.. I'll try it on it's lowest and see what happens.

                Nope, no difference with lowest voltage either. Ballbags.

                I might try taking out my soundcard tomorrow - just as a last ditch.

                Update:

                I've narrowed it down to..

                ATItool
                WindowsBlinds
                Catalyst Control Centre
                Yahoo Messenger (Yeah I know I always forget that one - but I don't think it's that tbh)
                A desktop Calendar thing
                A few others.

                I'm inclined to go with the Catalyst control centre, I usually leave that as it shows me FPS for everything whereas the others I tried off. (Actually got an hour's + gaming WITH TV guided missiles! Got the g/f to practice her Spec-Op skills, well first day of training anyhoo)

                The Control software is the only software that I've had running consistantly after but not before the patch (I used to use Omega drivers)

                Incase anyone else has this problem I'll wittle down which app is the source and post up my findings (hopefully this isn't a one-off reprieve - I've never had one before this so fingers crossed; And all other crossable appendages.)

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                • Psaldorn

                  #9
                  Re: CTD with no error after 5 minutes gametime, AMD/ATi

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                  Final Update:

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                  I think I have a resolution: played plenty of hours (just got my 50 commander points award thing too) no crashing and great performance!

                  I managed to narrow the problem down to either WindowsBlinds or ATitool

                  Possibly a combination of those 2 and BF2. I'll let you know with further experiments. This conflict was only introduced with the 1.2 patch and doubt it will be resolved by EA/DICE.

                  Fixed speakers popping with new Audigy 2 drivers (which, thanks to Creative not being able to write software, were a NIGHTMARE to install - had to pretend to install the updated ones, then get windows to look in the temp folder for the unpacked files and then crash the install program!)

                  Got massive performance boost by running chkdsk on game and OS drives and then clearing off lots of space and fully defragging.

                  Note: Anyone using ATitool shoudl make sure the log-making function is set to off in the settings -> temerpature monitoring screen. ATitool was loading a single 400Mb+ text file constantly, instead of splitting it into smaller files! Definately wasn't helping matters :)

                  Got rid of the "BF2 Memory Error: Memory.dll all alloc fialed for size.." CTDs by making non-game HDDs (physically not logically seperate) have system managed page files. Not manually set as before.

                  To think the game ran fine before 1.2..

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