The single biggest balance issues that remains in Battlefield 2 - the J-10

[exho]

They really need to fix this and fast. Im tired of wasting all 6 of my missels on a J10 thats flying right infront of me and I have a clean lock, Then they turn around get on my 6 and fire 2 and Im dead no matter what I do.

[troybob]

planes being equal across the board? negative - thats like only having one fighter to choose from in Mortal Kombat. Use the advantages, escape the disadvantages. I think they call it adapting.

[Bungalow_Bill]

planes being equal across the board? negative - thats like only having one fighter to choose from in Mortal Kombat. Use the advantages, escape the disadvantages. I think they call it adapting.

LOL. Sorry but the F-35B doesn't have any advantages. Unless of course you consider more cannon ammo a real "advantage" compared to the J-10 which has 1) missile dodging ability 2) better handling all around 3) and (because of opponents crap planes) the missiles the J-10 fires almost always hit.

I'll take the J-10 any day of the week, hell, I'd take the J-10 even with 3 bars of health and it'd still have a massive advantage.

[Chris_Redfield]

Kind of odd that people consider +300 rounds of ammo a real advantage. I mean, you can replenish your cannon ammo in a blink of an eye... The only reason youd need those extra 300 is if you are determined to keep the enemy air assets down for a prolongued period of time.

planes being equal across the board? negative - thats like only having one fighter to choose from in Mortal Kombat. Use the advantages, escape the disadvantages. I think they call it adapting.

You can never adapt with a HMWWV against a tank. Its called "cut your losses and pick your fights".

[Bungalow_Bill]

Bottom line is the airplanes are the only vehicle in the game where one or two of them are clearly better than all the rest to a huge extent.

• The choppers are well balanced in the advantage and disadvantage department, while one is faster with a weaker gun, while one is slower and less manevuerable but to compensate has a cannon with more damage and 3 or 4 times the splash damage radius.
• Tanks are all virtually the same, and that works great for balance as the best tank driver will almost always win in a stand off barring interference, plus I've never heard of such a thing as a "T-90 Whore".
• Transport are all virtually the same, with Vodnik and Hummer while looking diffierent respond pretty much the same with identical mounted guns.
• APC are similar as well with the only real difference is one has a faster gun with less damage, one has a slower main gun with more damage.
• Finally, the transport helicopters, which since the Blackhawk had the minigun nerfed they are again, virtually identical despite the different configuration.

So the real question is, why does DICE feel aircraft have to be so radically different to the point where one tlype of aircraft always shoots down the other with near 100% reliability (assuming the person in the cockpit of the J-10 isn't a mental defective)? I get the feeling it's more of a mistake than anything, and DICE didn't realize that having a more manevuerable plane would have such a profound impact on the entire balance of the game and maps which supported these planes. I mean, come on... a little extra cannon ammo, and you consider that balanced advantage versus disadvantage?

[colony]

I've always thought the MIG v JSF is a fairly even fight this is mainly Oman and Zatar as I recall. Oman is fine as it's 2v1.

I rather not return to the land of no dogfights ala 1.12 and would like to keep the J10, why would reducing the armour not work, am I missing something?

Yes the Mig vs JSF is a very even fight. you say its 2 vs 1 on oman, but Su34 is actually very capable of downing F35s post 1.2 if they get behind em, its all about controlling speed.

And to answer your question Jakswan...I let no pilot get behind me for enough time to gun me down, I check views every couple seconds. And with a J10 in my hands, I am unstoppable, no one will shoot me down with guns even if it took 10 shots from it to kill me, which is why I dont like flying the J10 and why I dont play Chinese maps any more, or very rarely.

I feel all jets should be on equal footing, but not exactly handle the same. JSF has more stable guns and fast accel, Mig slightly better turning, J10 should handle like Mig but keep its guns unstable and add more AB or something. You get the idea.

Very odd. Everyone hoped it would be a miracle drug against J-10 disease. Thanks for the info, Wasp and Colony.

You dont go up against the J10 in Eurofighter so I dont know which would win.

[Virtus2]

• The choppers are well balanced in the advantage and disadvantage department, while one is faster with a weaker gun, while one is slower and less manevuerable but to compensate has a cannon with more damage and 3 or 4 times the splash damage radius.

I agree 100% and i think that should be done to planes.

[colony]

The only reason youd need those extra 300 is if you are determined to keep the enemy air assets down for a prolongued period of time.

:evil:

Wake Island if both J10s are down I baserape their spawn till I run out of my ammo.

[jakswan]

Fair point Colony, I watched PW's vid again he didn't take a scratch.

Although I'd miss the J10 it's just great fun to fly, I guess I'd prefer JSF v MIG type battles, rather than something that could evade AA.

LOL, the Eurofighter, only been able to get on MEC team recently but against a good pilot the Euro is a nightmare to take down.

Air combat is a lot different in Euro Focres I find.

[rsgx]

Dont nerf anything, just improve the things that need improvement.