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AsystoleUK
03-02-2009, 08:14 PM
I started up a new account recently and have almost hit 2,500 global score promotion. However.. my kill/death ratio is roughly 1000/1100 respectively.

Yeah. I'm doing terribad. I checked my old account to see what that was like considering I never really payed attention to Kill/Death back then, and it was 11,000 / 13,000.

Honestly, I don't know how I fail so hard. I saw a guy on the leaderboards with around 60,000 kills and 1000 deaths.

How do people do it :| i'm a damn bullet magnet..

[21CW]HIVictim
03-02-2009, 08:22 PM
60k:1k is called stat padding. But 2-0 can be easily achieved. I had 2.2:1 on my 3 star account. Now with my new account I am around 1.7:1 but I don't play as serious anymore.

The biggest thing is simply hand eye coordination, some people have it, some don't. The next biggest thing would be knowing the game backwards, forwards, inside and out.

Skaggy
03-02-2009, 08:25 PM
Are we talking about infantry or vehicles here?

If I was to give some generic advice I'd say watch some videos by good players and simply mimic them. If you say what you want to get better at I can give you a list of videos that will help...

AsystoleUK
03-02-2009, 08:33 PM
I play mostly infantry.. so i'm not sure what sort of thing will help. I jump around between support / sniper.

FPS[SONIC]
03-02-2009, 08:34 PM
It's all about decision making: When to move, or hold your position. What distance should you start engaging targets... and when you should never engage a target...

Team play can be a major factor also. If you play alongside other players, you'll learn from them. If you only run around doing what you want to do, you won't learn as much. Joining an on-going tournament which meets online weekly is a great way to pick up these skills.

If you really want to improve, take what you are good at and do it until you're really good at it.

TBH - those stats don't mean that much. Play for fun.

Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=
03-02-2009, 11:25 PM
Meh who cares for stats?.. You should see my stats ROFL

http://www.bf2stats.net/player/123853828/

This was the first game I ever played online on a PC and this is my first profile which I use for everything.. From messing around with friends to plane and heli practice to just running around being bored and blowing sh*t up xD

Corkum
03-02-2009, 11:58 PM
Well, stay in groups, you're less likely to get hit. Honestly though, don't worry about the stats, just have fun.

DontKnockIt225
03-03-2009, 12:24 AM
It is nothing to do with decision making. The way to get better is to perfect the basics. This is whats 95% of players cannot do right and so they will never become extremely good.

The thing you must work on is recoil.

This is a guns kick when bullets shoot. The guns in bf2 must be shot a certain way to shoot accurately. Even a newish player with great recoil technique can get a great score. This counts for close range and long range.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Y58HNYhzQ&feature=PlayList&p=BD228319F4CAFB65&index=0&playnext=1

This video goes through recoil. Watch this and learn it well. Once this becomes second nature you will get many many more kills.

The second video is more about movement and shooting techniques. This is only important if you have good recoil technique. Master the first one. Then move to the second. I'm a 3 star general and have always neglected recoil, now I have taken an interest I find I do not need 10bullets per kill anymore. I have improved greatly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfjD7pzP8ak&feature=PlayList&p=BD228319F4CAFB65&playnext=1&index=1

As said before, learn these after you have done the first video.



Finally if you want to practise recoil shooting, go on a single player karkand game on easy. Shoot targets at a range of 10-15m with a burst of no more than 7 bullets whilst standing with the Ak47. When done correctly you should kill the target. When you can do this youll be better than 80% of players on public servers.

Rambo
03-03-2009, 03:53 AM
set yourself up for defence as no one does this and wait for them to enter your crosshairs but use very few bullets to attrack attention:cool:,then wait there is usually a medic that jumps on him and revives so you can get both,then pile up the bodies:p

then move because that spot is known.

Repeat till cleaning is desired:salute:

If you play defence you can usually get golds and yop scores without the marathon flag hop lol

AsystoleUK
03-03-2009, 02:33 PM
Thanks guys.

Does anyone have any advice for F35 VS J10? With me being the F35 pilot. I haven't done much flying, so my defensive manoeuvres absolutely suck. If i'm in a J10 I just usually slack and fly in circles until I end up behind the american pilot, but that won't cut it in a F35. The J10's just turn too fast ;<

=98=
03-03-2009, 02:42 PM
The only effective way to escape the J10 is to fly at 700m, the boundary between out of control and in game, you'll notice your jet flies a lot faster.

That is the best way to out fly the J10 as you'll never out manoeuvre it.

Minmaster
03-03-2009, 02:53 PM
don't worry about K/D just have fun man.

imported_kiwi
03-03-2009, 09:17 PM
Choose medic kit and unlock G36E :) However, as others said you should have fun even if your K/D ratio sux.

imported_Chael
03-04-2009, 12:42 AM
The only effective way to escape the J10 is to fly at 700m, the boundary between out of control and in game, you'll notice your jet flies a lot faster.

That is the best way to out fly the J10 as you'll never out manoeuvre it.

Yes. And no. Definately the best way but not the only. My favorite way to dodge J10s is to out stunt them. The key to this is to learn your maps; take time to practice stunts. Just learn to fly through one or two seemingly-impossible gaps; there are a lot of em on Dragon.

And on any map with F35s there is a carrier. You can park the F35 in the boat dock under the carrier by going full speed and scraping the roof on the way in. Usually you'll get there too late and a missile will have followed you. And sometimes the enemy jet just keeps following you and slams right into you when you stop. But if it's timed just right you'll have that pilot hissing and spitting.

It's also a good place to hide stolen J10s for an entire round; just get the commander to babysit them with a wrench.

But in general just fly above 400 meters as much as possible otherwise you wont have enough speed to ditch a J10 no matter how high you go after it locks you.

And when all else fails and you know you're screwed, just get as close to the carrier as you can and as high as possible and bail.

The_Mad_MoShah
03-04-2009, 03:29 AM
always join a big squad with high ranks if you can - if your on your own you get picked off a lot. Go medic stay at the back and try and shoot from there, you'll also be in a good position to revive your team mates.

iQue
03-04-2009, 07:18 AM
If you really want to get a good K/D consistently, you must play as medic. You can abuse medpacks and hang around other medics that revive each other like crazy. If you play another class, you're just gonna have to deal with having a worse K/D, unless you're very effective, don't take any risks what so ever, or whore vehicles. Sniper is a good exception, if you can hit on a regular basis from long range.

Key thing is to have good aim and reflexes. Make sure you have a mouse sensitivity you like that doesn't hinder your movement. Second, good situational awareness, check your minimap and join a good squad that sticks together. Don't do suicide attacks.

But remember that if you worry about your K/D too much, you might be less helpful to your team.

[GCA]Tim270
03-04-2009, 11:34 AM
Yes. And no. Definately the best way but not the only. My favorite way to dodge J10s is to out stunt them.

Very true, the one time I managed to pull off flying under the gas station on Oman in a ranked game made the mig behind me think I was just going to crash and flew over, pull up and im on his six :)

imported_kiwi
03-04-2009, 09:12 PM
Good luck out stunting experienced pilot in J10 :laugh:

imported_Ricochet
03-05-2009, 12:41 AM
Improve K/D ratio?

What I did was, making boot camp in COOP mode in a local game. In Coop you can set up maps with e.g. 32 bots and train all not locked weapons, armor, and aicraft. Everything you mess up in here won't affect your career sheet in Online mode.

My first goal was to not get killed during a whole round. At first I only shot maybe 6-10 enenies. But gradually after improving my way to appraoch enemies and finding all kind of nice sweet spots and choke points with enough cover and getaways, my score got a lot better.

AsystoleUK
03-05-2009, 05:28 PM
Improve K/D ratio?

What I did was, making boot camp in COOP mode in a local game. In Coop you can set up maps with e.g. 32 bots and train all not locked weapons, armor, and aicraft. Everything you mess up in here won't affect your career sheet in Online mode.

My first goal was to not get killed during a whole round. At first I only shot maybe 6-10 enenies. But gradually after improving my way to appraoch enemies and finding all kind of nice sweet spots and choke points with enough cover and getaways, my score got a lot better.

May give that a try.. sometimes though i'm just plain unlucky too. Reached 1 - 7 ratio in a round i'm playing at this very moment within about 5 minutes. Combination of spawning on top of an enemy tank or grenade and being shot in the head by those jump-roll-headshot retards.

Okay just finished that round.. with one of the highest tied death tallys out of all the players (12).

It's infuriating.

FPS[SONIC]
03-05-2009, 07:07 PM
I hear some say that it's not about decision making and I respectfully disagree. IMO you are putting yourself in a lot of risky situations if you're dying so much. Take a different approach: act like that toon you're running around as is really you. You don't want to die, right? Well, act like that little dude shouldn't be allowed to die and protect him as best you can. With that in mind, play some more...

imported_Ricochet
03-06-2009, 01:29 AM
Another way to improve K/D is to stay away from the tougher terrain maps like Clean Sweep. Big open spaces, long distances with hardly any cover. Loads of airpower flying above it. Best be to play on Infantry Only maps for a while with kits like snipers and specials.

golfisfun
03-06-2009, 01:01 PM
Are we talking about infantry or vehicles here?

If I was to give some generic advice I'd say watch some videos by good players and simply mimic them. If you say what you want to get better at I can give you a list of videos that will help...

I would like this list

Skaggy
03-06-2009, 05:07 PM
Infantry

http://www.wipido.com/video/656

Sniper

http://www.vbors.com/xkullx/ There are some videos from other games there too, they're all by xkullx

Infantry and a bit of solo chopper

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3141520992601241877

These videos can't teach you aim and reflexes; you need to do that by playing. But what they can do is help teach you the general ideas of movement, tactics and "game-intelligence".

Jets

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=86125

F-35 v J-10

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=794410795084616794&hl=en
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fSQsTMotCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcz_OV191js


Choppers

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/47293.html

Soloing
http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com/main/showthread.php?t=95291&highlight=sloi+soloing+video
http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com/main/showthread.php?t=104315&highlight=sloi+soloing+video
http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com/main/showthread.php?t=111180&highlight=sloi+soloing+video

AsystoleUK
03-06-2009, 05:56 PM
A round of wake - Sortof.

Very nice flying in a F-35. I usually use rearview to try and help me lose J10's but then all sense of direction goes out the window and i usually end up crashing. I may do some empty server practice flying.

DontKnockIt225
03-07-2009, 01:24 AM
Tiger shark is quite possibly the best BF2 infantry player I have seen in my life lol. Recoil is the way forward!!! You watch tigershark, his recoil control is almost perfect. After recoil is very good, work on movement.

Also heres a great tip, use crouch to stand up from prone. This will allow you to instantly stand up without any delay.

Skaggy
03-07-2009, 12:02 PM
A round of wake - Sortof.

Very nice flying in a F-35. I usually use rearview to try and help me lose J10's but then all sense of direction goes out the window and i usually end up crashing. I may do some empty server practice flying.

Thank you, that'll be my video :p

To be competent in jets you need to be comfortable using both the rear and fly-by view. As you'll see in one of the other videos I posted (Firefly by Irishpride), in the dogfighting sections he spends the majority of his time in fly-by.

It's a good idea to do some practise on your own. Start by staying in fly-by view and just flying around, play some games like getting as close to the camera as you can etc. You should pick up the feel for it pretty quickly.

If you haven't already, I suggest you get a joystick (Logitech 3D Pro is what most pilots use ;))

Chevy-SS
03-09-2009, 05:18 PM
As stated, hang around with medics. And sometimes, be a medic yourself. As medic, whenever you think you're gonna be in a spot for more than a few seconds, toss a med kit on the ground right next to your feet. That way, if you take a hit, you'll be totally healed in a couple of seconds - and you'll usually have enough time to kill the guy that's shooting at you.

Also, make sure you have good controls and keyboard. A good gaming mouse really helps as well. The aim points are pretty precise in BF2, so you gotta have good aim.

AsystoleUK
03-09-2009, 10:46 PM
I've just accepted the fact I cannot beat J10 pilots in a f-18 / f-35.

I don't even bother trying to take a USMC plane on a chinese map anymore.

No matter what I do I can't outmanoeuvre them..

imported_Chael
03-09-2009, 11:26 PM
More F35s for me:cool:

imported_kiwi
03-10-2009, 12:04 AM
I've just accepted the fact I cannot beat J10 pilots in a f-18 / f-35.

I don't even bother trying to take a USMC plane on a chinese map anymore.

No matter what I do I can't outmanoeuvre them..

Dude, that's like the last and one of the most advanced stages of this game. When you have played at least 1K hours and at least 500 hours in jets and made over say 30K kills in jets then you can start looking how to properly fly F35 and kill J10 :D

imported_Chael
03-10-2009, 12:33 PM
Here's a tip for avoiding death:

When your team captures a critical flag (for instance if on dragon they take wood, or on wake your team caps their first flag on the island) DONT SPAWN THERE. Spawn at the last flag you spawned at instead and move to a base near or opposite the one that is captured. I know this may sound confusing, let me explain.

Say you're on wake on US. Your team caps south base. At this point most of the enemy team is moving towards south base. So instead of spawning there and dying with the rest of your team, spawn on the arty island and take a boat to north village. If your team holds south base long enough you can cap north village and divide their forces (and yours but it usually works out favorably).

imported_kiwi
03-11-2009, 09:22 AM
Yea, sometimes I feel sorry for the guys that spawn at the only flag that enemy team has. 2 jets, heli, tanks, snipers and other ground troops all raping it :salute:

imported_Ricochet
03-12-2009, 02:52 AM
Wake is absolutely rape ****(excrement) . And often the most boring map around, when the US-enemy is glued to the carrier and the arty island. :shakehead:

dfour
03-17-2009, 10:08 AM
I agree with everyone with regards to learning the recoil control. Play Io and learn to control your recoil and play medic or assualt.

I know people deride the assault kit but it has 2 of the most devistating weapons in the game (for IO), the G3 and the 'n00b tube'. Master those and you will be lethal. Play with the G3 in single shot mode and you will find the lack of ammo not that much of a problem and the recoil is easier to control as well. People will hate you but the tube is a one shot kill weapon and is especially good for killing lots of medic whores trying to revive your last victim.

I played assault for 30 hours straight towards my expert assault badge and my K/D ratio rocketed.

Safrguns
03-26-2009, 10:01 PM
How do people do it :| i'm a damn bullet magnet..


LOL... I had this problem... so I got in a tank... and STAYED there! :)

I'm still a bullet magnet out of my tank...

Maybe you were meant to be a tanker?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWdequ1i6po

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBJui7M1FHw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6il0ZHFlggc

**L96A1**
03-26-2009, 10:13 PM
I played assault for 30 hours straight towards my expert assault badge and my K/D ratio rocketed.


Am with you on this, assault is a very deadly class to play, and a person who can play the kit properly will be able to get first place at the end of the round, even beating the medic whores, as i have done lots of times.

Assault ...... , in the right hands = lots of kills.

[1SMB]B|Rec.Easton
03-29-2009, 08:36 PM
I started up a new account recently and have almost hit 2,500 global score promotion. However.. my kill/death ratio is roughly 1000/1100 respectively.

Yeah. I'm doing terribad. I checked my old account to see what that was like considering I never really payed attention to Kill/Death back then, and it was 11,000 / 13,000.

Honestly, I don't know how I fail so hard. I saw a guy on the leaderboards with around 60,000 kills and 1000 deaths.

How do people do it :| i'm a damn bullet magnet..

Answer:


... I jump around between support / sniper.

As those have said before, go medic and squad up with other medics. This is the easiest and best way to improve your KDR in BF2.

Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=
03-30-2009, 03:48 PM
I don't understand this game, tonight I'm playing as sniper and I'm being killed CONSTANTLY by assault classes. I die almost instantly when shot at.. Then when I try using the assault classes I can't hit a thing, even if it's 5 feet infront of me and when I do manage to hit someone it takes a sh*t load to drop them.

I give up trying to play this game lol it's impossible, how people can shoot that accurately from those distances is beyond me. I have tried EVERYTHING, different assault rifles and classes tried prone standing and crouching and I get the same sh*t, I begin shooting at someone and miss constantly they turn around and blow me away in no more than 1 MAYBE 2 seconds.. If they see me first then yeah I'm totally fu*ked because I don't even get any warning I'm being shot at I just instantly die.