View Full Version : Should snipers have a limted number per game?
Hjodin
12-09-2007, 05:07 PM
Just got off a server with 6 sniper on the other team. It was a camp fest. Claymores everywhere. was not fun at all. Any thought's on limiting the number of snipers per team ?
I think it would keep the flow going but I am sure there are reasons for and against. Discuss.
FPS[VT_NERD]
12-09-2007, 05:24 PM
Not by default. The server config allows server operators to limit the number of people who can play any class, but limiting this option means your server will not be ranked.
Anyways, the option already exists and I disagree with having it become mandatory.
Kodakk
12-09-2007, 06:23 PM
Yeah, please don't limit it!
Reminds me of BF2 - Project Reality limited kits. You'd log on and want to form a sniper team with your clan mates, but wouldn't be able to because there was some lonewolf out doing his own thing.
BluezNote
12-09-2007, 06:28 PM
Keep in mind anyone can use claymores, so if you restrict snipers you will still be fighting the claymores. Try out the explosives perk 1 ability. My stealth rusher uses it with great success. Puts a huge icon above enemy claymores/c4 for you to see, then blast away.:salute:
TSlaw*
12-09-2007, 08:15 PM
And watch for them lasers. They stick out of walls too. Peak around corners. If someone doesn't know how to plant them correctly, just run past the corner and you can run past the claymore before it blows.
Cantina_Fly
12-09-2007, 11:32 PM
The biggest problem with limiting weapons is then the case of "Who gets them then?" You invariably end up with someone spamming chat because they want to play sniper. I'd rather disable the weapons all together then limit them.
And no, I wouldn't do it even then. Snipers are powerful in random pub play where no one works together, especially those guys running around with the .50 Cal, a silenced P90, and Overkill. I have yet to see them dominate any kind of organized play however. You know, where people move together, use smoke to cover their advance, etc...
imported_Whiskey
12-09-2007, 11:55 PM
As others have said, you can limit classes/weapons on unranked servers. That's where it belongs, IMO. Ranked servers should be the same as possible, as fair as possible, for everyone.
CptainCrunch
12-10-2007, 02:14 AM
Snipers on the other side is the BEST! Run and dodge, throw some smoke, knfie and shoot em up. Blow up their clays in their faces by shooting at em.
Why would you want to stop that?
My favorite was getting kicked off one server because I was throwing smoke EVERYWHERE and that entire side voted me off because they couldnt see :D
More good times.
Crunch
Cantina_Fly
12-10-2007, 02:26 AM
Snipers on the other side is the BEST! Run and dodge, throw some smoke, knfie and shoot em up. Blow up their clays in their faces by shooting at em.
Why would you want to stop that?
My favorite was getting kicked off one server because I was throwing smoke EVERYWHERE and that entire side voted me off because they couldnt see :D
More good times.
Crunch
You da man Crunchy! When snipers start voting to kick you, you know you no longer have anything to fear from them.
Happy Hunting. :D
TheDesert_Fox
12-10-2007, 03:57 AM
Maybe we should make a limit on SMGs in Vacant, it's all rushing and 3xFrag, Q_Q
Battl3fr0nt
12-10-2007, 09:09 AM
Just got off a server with 6 sniper on the other team. It was a camp fest. Claymores everywhere. was not fun at all. Any thought's on limiting the number of snipers per team ?
I think it would keep the flow going but I am sure there are reasons for and against. Discuss.
I have been saying this for a long time.. cod4 just feels to much like cod4 now a big campfest.. 2 snipers per team would be best.. hell if i had it my way it would no no snipers.. I really cant handle these kids taht sit and camp and think they are good cuz they sit and snipe.. this game was so much better befor this 1.3 crap.. it really did mess it up alot.. even in HQ everyone just sits and camp's and its not only the snipers doing it its the people that dont wanna be taken out by the noob's with them.. they made it way to easy.. I was so happy with the way the game was and of corse all good things must come to an end..
Flamesfan_21
12-10-2007, 10:40 AM
I'm kinda torn, i don't think putting a limit in would be very smart, but i cant stand snipers and whole heartedly agree with battl3fr0nt.
Cantina_Fly
12-10-2007, 01:09 PM
What kind of servers are you playing on Battl3front?
Are you random pubbing by yourself, or playing with a clan?
I played about 8hrs this weekend and I saw a few more snipers then usual (to be expected after a patch that made changes to them,) none of them were "dominating" game play though. There were a couple good ones, but that's to be expected with any class.
bphillips79
12-10-2007, 04:02 PM
Yeah, I only had one match that a sniper was driving me nuts. It was on overgrown and we airstriked him. Haha.
FPS[SONIC]
12-10-2007, 04:32 PM
I just don't find snipers to be that annoying. I just equip my "Stealth Rusher" and charge their positions. That teaches them to stop camping or that they better team up and fortify their positions. Once you get them boxed in, it's stabby-stabby time. :yay:
Liberator29
12-10-2007, 04:35 PM
Yeah, I only had one match that a sniper was driving me nuts. It was on overgrown and we airstriked him. Haha.
Heck ya thats the way to do it! I mean I dont hate snipers...I do find myself calling them noobs on a spur of the moment when I get shot by one. But looking at the whole picture its not like I havent owned people down range with a 50 cal also. You just gotta adapt! Plus my RPD can easily reach out and cap any sniper even if he ducks down behind a wall! So there really isnt any reason to limit classes!
:salute:
Ozendorph
12-10-2007, 05:23 PM
As has been said, there's really no reason to limit classes. It just limits options, flattens the game out, and causes additional problems. Besides, how exactly would you limit "snipers"? Limit by Primary weapon type? What about Overkill? What about that evil "fake sniper" with his M14/G3 of doom??
Get creative. Tell them "If you continue to snipe, I'm coming for you with a Red Tiger Scorpion with an ACOG on it. You will be killed by the ugliest weapon ever created." They may change classes out of fear. ;)
=)BiT(=AutoFodder
12-10-2007, 05:38 PM
It's really easy to sneak up on them, most people don't even put clays down.
A good example today: I was .50 cal'ing it up on crossfire, people saw what I was doing and decided to follow suit (with their SAW's :S). Anyway, I notice out of the corner of my eye that a guy has just rushed into the lower level of our little "sniper" nest. No one else saw him, so I equip my Desert Eagle and prepare myself. He kills someone downstairs, I attempt to hit him with a stun/frag combo but he avoids it, runs up the stairs and P90's me. He then continues to knife the 3 other guys that were on that floor.... that's right.
Not a single one of them noticed when they were slowly being knifed one by one.
In order to enact revenge (more for my death than the deaths of the guys on my team who were sheerly pants-on-head retarded), I spawned on the lower level and proceeded upstairs whilst he was gutting my teammates and stuck my knife in his backside.
So you see, campers aren't worth bitching about.
-Spartan`II7^
12-10-2007, 06:42 PM
I'd like to limit the numbers of snipers, because there are a lot of retards who can't snipe and you end up being the only one who kills anything because everyone else is sitting in a corner of the map behind a wall of Claymores, crying all over the chat whenever they get killed or you steal a kill or something like that.
=MNKY=Frosty
12-10-2007, 10:21 PM
As soon as major changes, like implementing limits, comes into play then I myself and many people will be disappointed, the game is great to play, and if your complaining about snipers, then stop standing still, keep moving and get up close and personal.
TheDesert_Fox
12-11-2007, 01:38 AM
Funny how people all complain about snipers and Q_Q 'til the internet is just as flooded as New Orleans, but then they talk about how they own them and knife the noobs in the back, etc. Shouldn't you be happy for free kills, then?
The Idea sounds good for limiting snipers but I would have to say no. Players should have the freedom for choosing what class they want to be. Im fine with the idea for modded server though.
=)BiT(=AutoFodder
12-11-2007, 09:18 AM
Funny how people all complain about snipers and Q_Q 'til the internet is just as flooded as New Orleans, but then they talk about how they own them and knife the noobs in the back, etc. Shouldn't you be happy for free kills, then?
I'm sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick here, but are you talking about me?
'Cus I don't think I complained about snipers :hmm:
CptainCrunch
12-11-2007, 03:29 PM
Funny how people all complain about snipers and Q_Q 'til the internet is just as flooded as New Orleans, but then they talk about how they own them and knife the noobs in the back, etc. Shouldn't you be happy for free kills, then?
Yeah, I wasnt complaining either. I love free kills.
And I am happy :yay:
Crunch
GrossKopf
12-11-2007, 03:38 PM
As soon as major changes, like implementing limits, comes into play then I myself and many people will be disappointed, the game is great to play, and if your complaining about snipers, then stop standing still, keep moving and get up close and personal.
Like it's been said, no changes need to be made. If someone wants to run a server with a limit on snipers, all they have to do is run unranked and they can modify all sorts of things.
TheDesert_Fox
12-11-2007, 11:04 PM
I'm sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick here, but are you talking about me?
'Cus I don't think I complained about snipers :hmm:I dunno, I just posted after reading some things in this thread, and in others. Didn't check the names, but reading over your post now, no, you don't seem to be complaining at all.
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